You mean like in the first debate when the sweaty lipped Rmoney was losing his cool?

You are referring to Romney in the first debate. He was rude and overbearing in the second debate, and was passive in the third debate.

Care to elaborate on what qualities you think make Romney seem "presidential" or make Obama seem "unpresidential"?

Is that code for "be white"?

Here's a clue. If you voted for Obama in 2008 to show you weren't prejudice, then vote for Romney in 2012 to show you aren't stupid!

Not to me. Jill Stein (Green Party), for example, who qualified by Federal election standards to be on 85% of the ballots, was not heard. Just before the 2nd debate, when she attempted to enter the event, she was arrested and shackled to a chair for 8 hours. Tell me if you think this is democratic, or even rational.

Romney won and he has dignity and integrity and will make an excellent President.
Romney will restore our Republic and he will rebuild American and restore the esteem that our Nation once possessed and deserved that has been besmirched by the Obama administration.
President Obama, sniveled, degraded, mocked, sneered, embarrassed our country,grinned in contempt and debased not only the American people but the office of the Presidency itself. Such baseness is below the threshold of humanity yet Obama persists in continually repeating it. Just as he repeats his lies and his loathing of America and its people. He just makes jokes..."like the jobs were not shovel ready"
We, the people, have had enough. He must go!
RESTORE DIGNITY AND INTEGRITY TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
VOTE TO ELECT ROMNEY and RYAN GOD BLESS ROMNEY AND RYAN and
GOD BLESS THE FUTURE of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and HER PEOPLE!

Patriot: Are "dignity and integrity" code for "whiteness"?

Mom, We'll see who wins after the election, because thats where it really counts not here. I believe Mitt Romney made a better case for a brighter future than Obummer, afr all the lies he told. Wait until after the elections and see what he does with the closed deal he made with EPA and the Gov. Regulations that are going into effect and the millions of jobs thats going to cost and the price of Oil and Natural Gas and the gas at the punps start rising real bad and you can't afford to gas up or heat your homes anymore, then tell me who really won. If you vote for this idiot you will get much more job killing deals of his, then I'll tell you Wecome to the Real World lady, thats what you created and thats what you wanted the want-a-be-chosen one. NOT!!!!!!!

VietNam Vet,
I did not say that Obama won the election. I said that he won the debate. The election is close, and I think could go either way at this point. On that, we don't know if the American people have won through the reelection of Obama or if they will lose, perhaps irreparably, through Mitt Romney and the entering of his austerity regime.

Ryan/Romney are no friends of military servicemen. Paul Ryan has a long record of mistreating personal and veterans.

On July 7, 2011, Paul Ryan voted NO on House Roll Call 504, an amendment that would have provided $15 million for insulating facilities at military bases in Afghanistan.

On July 6, 2011, Paul Ryan voted NO on House Roll Call 498, an amendment that would increase funding by $3.6 million for a research program (known as the Gulf War Illness Research program) on illnesses affecting soldiers who served in the first Gulf War in 1991.

On May 26, 2011, Paul Ryan voted NO on House Roll Call 374, a motion to recommit that would have increased combat pay for soldiers by $100 per month.

On April 7, 2011, Paul Ryan voted NO on House Roll Call 246, a motion that would have guaranteed that all military personnel would be paid through September 30, 2011, even in the event that the federal government shut down.

On Jan 28, 2004, Paul Ryan voted NO on House Roll Call 9, a motion to increase bankruptcy protections for active and former military personnel and their families.

On November 7, 2003, Paul Ryan voted NO on House Roll Call 616, to recommit to a conference report which failed to extend full retirement and disability benefits to U.S. veterans who were wounded in battle.

On October 17, 2003, Paul Ryan voted NO on House Roll Call 554 to provide all U.S. service personnel with a pay raise of $1500.

On October 16, 2003, Paul Ryan voted NO on House Roll Call 547, on providing additional funding for quality of life enhancements for U.S. troops.

AND Romney is a draft dodger.

Just a reminder that Romney never once mentioned the people serving our country during his convention speech. They are written off as the 47%. He supports the profit making military machine, not the military men and women.

Vietnam Vet, "socialism" is bad except when it's gas prices, then everyone who drives an SUV wants a hand out.

Energy is sold on the open market, so unless you are in favor of nationalizing these industries, you get what the open market gives you. It's called capitalism.

RM
You have an opinion, so do others. Please be respectful, this could be a place to learn vs bash.

RM, Thank you for your insightful response.

Bellair-
In the closed thread you said 1916 was wartime. . .technically it was for Europe, but the US, where we're talking about bayonet production, was NOT a part of WWI. Next time you want to get snarky, learn history. The United States entered World War I on April 6, 1917 & fought through the end in November 1918. Up to that point, the US had remained neutral, though the US had been an important supplier to Britain and other Allied powers. As you might recall, we were isolationists prior to that. So, we weren't building our arms. Nice freakin' try.

Here's your quote, dummy: "BellairBerdan
5:42 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012
umm XJS, just an FYI...remember there was a WWI? Want to guess what years that was? Perhaps your lack of knowledge is why you misunderstood that "less" does not mean "none".
It's time for Wapner, Rainman."

GFY

XJS, you promised you wouldn't respond to me again. Are you saying we declared war before we prepared? Check your facts, my friend Rainman.

Bellair-
1. You said something disputable.
2. You were wrong. Eat it.
3. You don't understand facts, history etc. So now we're done until you post ANY evidence that the US was preparing to go to war. Links to actual websites, not thoughts from the voices in your head. Never once in all of your suppositions have you given me one link to prove your point. Probably b/c they don't exist.
Before you start digging, here's a BIG HINT: The United States military was almost wholly unprepared to enter WWI. The only weapons being produced were being shipped to Europe (incidentally those boats being attacked again (in late 1916/early 1917) by the Germans after a reprieve in the attacks forced us into the war) & our military was using wooden guns and tincans with rocks in them to practice fighting. Our military didn't know the first thing about gases and other new weaponry, b/c they weren't paying attention. Additionally, other than the Preparedness movement (which was not gov't sanctioned) our people were not ready physically or mentally to go to war. Wilson, in fact, was elected in 1916 on a "no war" platform as the majority wanted to live in peace.

NOW that I've wasted time schooling you on US History, I have to wonder what, if anything, you'll come back with. Dumbass.

First of all XJS, would you like to find any quote where I said the USA was entered into WWI in 1916? Or did I remind you that WWI was occurring then?
Proceeeeeed..Rainman

A commentary from Kent Jones concerning just how bad and hysterical the right-wing is in its prognostications regarding President Obama:

You've probably heard by now that if Obama wins a second term we will become a socialist nation, gun ownership will be made illegal, our country will be unrecognizable by the end of his term, and on and on. If you listen to leaders on the Right it sounds like this election is the most important election of all time and that all of America's freedoms are staked Romney defeating Obama. There's just one problem. I remember 2008.

In 2008 prominent Christian Right group Focus on the Family put out a sixteen page document called "Letter from 2012 in Obama's America." The document was in the form of a letter, a (fictional) letter from a Christian in 2012 writing back from the future about all the changes that had happened since Obama took office.

Focus on the Family was surprisingly specific in terms of its expectations for American life in October 2012. Democrats would disband the Boy Scouts; 1st graders would receive "compulsory training in varieties of gender identity"; after-school Bible studies would be banned in high schools; the Hyde Amendment would be repealed and abortion rates would soar; all FCC restrictions on obscenities would be nullified; private gun ownership would be banned in several states; home schooling would be made illegal; and the "Fairness Doctrine" would be imposed.

On health care, Democrats would pass single-payer health care and the elderly would have their access to care cut off. All of this would happen in the midst of an oppressive society in which "hardly any brave citizen dares to resist the new government policies any more [sic]."

I can appreciate the desire to scare the bejesus out like-minded voters, but given that none of these things actually happened, hasn't Focus implicitly argued that evangelicals should be pleasantly surprised by Obama's presidency?

Regardless, before anyone takes conservatives' new predictions for the next four years seriously, perhaps folks should consider how close they were the last time around.

Postscript: I should mention that Focus on the Family also predicted that Obama would eliminate the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. And this one actually came true -- though the right's warnings about the consequences of DADT repeal were completely wrong.

And President Obama has released his long form birth certificate, which has been vetted by all authorities as completely legitimate (with the possible exceptions of the only "true" experts, namely Donald Trump and Orly Taitz). And even though there are multiple local Hawaiian newspapers that announced his birth in August 1961 (as verified by microfilm archives), I guess this is all some grand conspiracy and possible use of George Soros time-travel technology to alter the historical record?

My God, even if there was a video tape of Don Ho standing next to President Obama when he entered the world while singing "Tiny Bubbles" the right-wing lunatic squad still wouldn't be satisfied that President Obama was born in Hawaii!

To all the Obama-haters out there.....finally get it off your chests and do what you so passionately long to do by calling him that word that begins with "N" and ends with "R" and isn't Nation-builder!

rich white guy, who looks down on everyone else, hides his money in offshore and Swiss accounts, and send jobs to China - WHAT a great American !!!

What debate did you watch. And BTW, Ridgewood Mom, how do you call Romney a draft dodger? That's a very serious crime that may preclude him from running for public office. In point of fact, he received a 2-S deferment as many of us college students did. You may be too young, stupid or intellectually dishonest to acknowledge it. In 1970, the Selective Service System was modified to a lottery system. Mr. Romney had a lottery number, based on birthdays drawn at random. His number was not called so he was not drafted. I was not so fortunate, so I got to spend 12 months in the Delta. That's the Mekong Delta to you. As Romney said to Obama, if you say something often enough, you will believe it it true.
BTW, I didn't catch Obama's military rank when he served our country. Oh yes, I forgot, he was busy plotting with Bill Ayers. Take your liberal lies and get off this web site.

PS. John M. Your bullying comments are inappropriate (stupid?). Take your liberal lies.... Fortunately, everyone has freedom of speech!

Thank you so much for your service John M.

Romney is a draft dodger though. He is a draft dodger because he dodged the draft.

Good points John M!

Ridgewood Mom, do you even know what you are saying? First in order to be a draft dodger there has to be a draft {which this country hasn't had since the VietNam war} I happen to be a Viet Nam Vet with 2 tours under my belt and would have gone back for a third if I could've, it would be no secret that I can stand bleeding heart liberals from the Viet Nam era war who cried to bring our troops home and lose the war. If you are one then you have no room to talk lady. You are probably one of them who voted for Clinton, a real live Draft Dodger and a disgrace to this country, get a real life will you.

This so called idiot who you would like to think of as a chosen one is nothing but a self professed communist and IS not a citizen of this country and was not born here and has no social security number here except the fraudulent one he uses. No body knows anything about this liar and he refuses to show a real B C or any papaer to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. I a you tube video before a room full of people he admitted he is not from this country and IS NOT a citizen of this country. I would rather have someone who loves this country in office instead of a job destroyer and a liar running this country. Get real and get a real life. If you elect this muslim pig again, then you deserve all that is coming with it. Wake up an find out the facts before you make a mistake you'll be sorry later.

I guess by this measure we can all be proud of George Bush and Dick Cheney who never took advantage of multiple draft deferments or used privileged connections to the Air National Guard (and still went awol) to escape Vietnam and who so selflessly sacrificed their lives and sacred honor to serve our nation???

Vietnam Vet,

Of course I know that "in order to be a draft dodger there has to be a draft {which this country hasn't had since the VietNam war}." The Vietnam War is the war that I have said Romney dodged the draft for. And as per this point, that is why Obama could not have dodged, which is what I said.

I agree with you that we shouldn't vote for Clinton in this election. And we shouldn't vote for "George Bush and Dick Cheney" as per the words of Belleville Sentinel. We should vote for Barack Obama, who is not a draft dodger.

Mitt Romney is a draft dodger.

Did you read my points above about Paul Ryan's congressional voting record on military men and women and veterans?

How did the Gitmo closing go? Another Obama lie to get the uninformed liberals to vote for him. How about, "If I don't get this economy turned around in 4 years, I don't deserve 4 more years"? Well, why is the Anointed One running since he has done nothing but make the economy worse?

Weighing the progress made in the past 4 years with the idea of returning to the policies of the Cheney/Bush era, I’d go with the former. There was, and still is, a mountain of issues to address—as you pointed out with Gitmo being one of them, but turning the reins of executive power back to the same party who put us into this mess isn’t an option for me.

Joseph, you should go back to school.
You sound inane and you also sound like your are repeating the garbage lies that have
been shoveled out by the Obama administration. You are oblivious to what has been happening the last 4 years. You believe PRESIDENT ZERO has Successes in FOREIGN POLICY?? You are deluding yourself...Face the facts.
President Obama lies repeatedly. His campaign had to walk back his remarks about sequestration, which he blamed on Congress ( Another Lie ) it was due to HIM.
His Campaign had to Walk Back his remarks...as it was such an easy and tangible statement to check the veracity of. Now after weeks of lies about the killing of our Ambassador Stevens and 3 other American in Lybia.....the truth surfaced. Obama, Hilary Clinton, Susan Rice, Carney ALL LIED? Emails in the first several hours sent by Stevens stated it was Al Quaeda terrorism, there was no demonstration, there was NO outrage about a video. 4 Americans could have be saved-instead they perished because they did not get the help they repeatedly asked for. The charade about the video was repeated for more than 3 weeks. That night Obama went off to bed knowing what was transporting in Lybia..He got up the next day with knowledge of the 4 murders and went to Las Vegas to campaign and continue to Lie. He also is giving Billions of Dollars those who wish to destroy America.
This President MUST GO!
VOTE FOR ROMNEY and RYAN = A VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS IS A VOTE FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

The subject of this thread was about which candidate performed better in the 2nd debate. Romney came off like a blog poster who cuts and pastes URL’s to make a statement in lieu of presenting an understanding of a topic. The president presented a clear grasp of the topics discussed, while Romney presented an arm-chair quarterback perspective at best. Romney wants to cut taxes for middle-class Americans while increasing defense spending, maintaining the Bush tax cuts, and proposes to pay for it by closing as yet unnamed “loop holes.” Both candidate want to protect American jobs from being outsourced overseas but Romney’s Bain Capital company oversaw the restructuring of companies resulting in exactly that—American jobs going overseas.

John M. you are so right and he does not deserve another 4 more years, he has destroyed our economy. He has had many chance to put people back to work but he chose to put more people out of work instead, and increase the spending and take our economy down the tubes. He is trying to ruin this country and make us weak for the rest of the muslims to walk in, he is NOT one of us and never will be, as Vladimeer Putins wife said, you have elected one of us to take you down, because you think you are so strong and can tell eveyone what to do, he is doing what we want....to destroy your country from within.

Wrong as always. Romney couldn't disagree more with O'Bama's domestic policies. BTW, how many jobs were exported to China and India during the past 4 years? Romney's policy is to bring as many of those jobs back to the US as possible.

CBS is not a credible poll taker.

@Richard: Consensus across ALL polls is an Obama win on this debate. You can quibble over the percentage, but only desperate fringe elements refuse to recognize the win.

Personally I believe that Romney just bent to what he felt people wanted to hear. He followed the presidents lead and was off his game. He was caught lying several times. The fact checks showed this. Romney is tired and just wants this all over.

Stig as usual you are wrong. Obama didn't need to rebut this version of Rmoney because Rmoney essentially agreed with every policy the President put in place. He had to because if the previous Mitt had shown up he would have looked inept.

He didn't get rolled by Pakistan. He sent our finest in without permission, just like he said he would before he was elected. They shot that bastard in the face and tossed his sorry butt into the middle of the ocean. No shrine for you Bin Laden, you scumbag. The desperation of Republicans to paint Democrats as weak and soft on foreign policy is hysterical, history proves otherwise. Meanwhile Reagan pulled the Marines out of Lebanon after they were bombed and never went back, yet no one ever complains about that. Hypocrites.

Dan is wrong, as usual. The reason they sounded so much alike on many issues is that the topics the moderator chose tended to be the places where, on balance, there wasn't a lot of room to disagree.

Areas that they missed - Like Foreign Trade Agreements, would have shown how feckless Obama is. At the height of the recession his administration dragged their feet on serious trade agreements with Latin America that would have opened up sizable markets to US Exports. Instead, he kowtowed to the unions, who want to use trade agreements to push unionization overseas, and an opportunity to goose the US economy was lost.

PA should really be a leaning Obama state, not a toss-up.

That truly is hilarious: citing REAL CLEAR POLITICS as a source. They are about as "fair and balanced" as Sean Hannity. Thanks for the chuckle.

RCP just averages out all the current polls and uses the margin or error to determine which states are in play (note - they do not do their own polling). Pundits on both sides use their calculations because their methodology is as good as anything else out there.

River Edger, they aggregate poll data, and update the Electoral College map daily; implying bias here is ludicrous.

Ricky, the state of Pennsylvania is listed as a "toss up" state because Romney is surging there and the difference between candidates is within the margin of error.

http://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html

I like Nate Silvers 538 http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Succinct & accurate

Very well said. I was surprised that Romney yet again failed to mention the men and women of our military. It really goes to show how he views our brave men and women in uniform. To him and Mrs. Romney, going on a Mormon mission is the same as serving in the military, which is a slap in the face to our combat veterans.

The only thing "stunning" about BO was his arrogance and ineptitude. Tearful moment? More like shameful that he would use a young girl's grief that way. BO skirted the issue of his apology tour--that's what it was. Let's not forget BO bowed to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia and Emperor Akihito of Japan--a "stunning" display of idiocy on his part. I would be wary of Romney if he disagreed straight down the line with all of BO's policies--but he certainly did not agree with everything.

Liberty, George Bush held hands and kissed the King of Saudi Arabia. Do a Google image check

BellairBerdan, when our side does it it's cute.

In God we trust.....oh yeah, the DNC left out God!
At least the ambassadors will have a longer lifespan with Romney as POTUS
Barry can start selling guns at the border, sell 'em fast and furious...unless Barry has to apologize for a utube video again.
During the debate, Barry looked like a bored, angry middleaged man smirking because someone complained that his budget didn't work out. I see those old guys at work all the time....then they get a package and leave. Barry has got to go.
Byebye Barry, move on to your next scam.

Yes, I agree. But these two corporate parties have tied up the election process so well, the third parties can barely get a hearing in front of the public at large. Have we seen Jill Stein (Green Party) or Rocky Anderson (Justice Party) on TV, or heard them on any major radio stations? No. The Repub/Dem parties have sucked the life out of what is a true democratic republic.

Kel and JAFO It is just silly that you believe that you are smarter the either of these men and see it as a lose,lose. Just because you have a right to vote doesn't make you qualified.

I agree. Foreign policy decisions are best not left to a game show mentality. Patience, stealth are called for. Obama is the better qualified, even though he's still not my ultimate choice (which is neither).

WOW. Carolyn and Jo, we had an ambassador killed, first time in 30 years and you think B H Obama is the man to keep us safe? Oh no, what if another utube video hit bashing Muslims? Another dead American? Please think twice about your safety.
The military doesn't agree with different positions that BHO takes but you never hear about it in mainstream press. PLEASE if you know someone who has a son, daughter, cousin in the miltary, CALL THEM to get the real story. There are things not being reported in the liberal press.

Biden has more foreign policy experience than any of the other three candidates combined. He may be an inarticulate speaker, but he's forgotten more on foreign policy than Romney will ever know.

If that's your opinion, you were not listening very carefully.

Well said and accurate. Romney simply validated Obama's policies, while simultaneously indicating that he'd start trade wars, etc... businessman ? Ha !

Romney did less debating and more paraphrasing last night. I guess he was tired of saying "I agree with the President."

Romney actually stated clearly and succinctly that he would NOT start a trade war and pointed out that we'd lose if he did. He gets that.

So how do you suggest we impose our will on the entire Middle East? At the barrel of a gun? Or the point of a bayonet? Install US puppet governments? Does the phrase "Shah of Iran" mean anything to you? Look how well that worked out.

Robin. Don't you realize that you can't change thousands of years overnight ? Change takes time.. How about commenting how every single person at Romney rallies and in their get out the vote efforts are white ? Even in Nevada, with Susan Martinez governor of New Mexico trying to help get hispanic support, they could NOT get a single hispanic voter to go door to door. This is a Puritan effort to take over the U.S. and abolish all the progressive change that has occurred over the past 70 years.. The tea party is really just as bad as some of the groups you mentioned in the middle east.

Robin study our own American History. It took us 30 years to settle into a Government and 50 years after that we had a Civil War. The middle east has thousands of years of no rights and no freedoms on the scale of a Democracy. Just because we encourage them to have elections doesn't mean that we will get the result we want right away. Over time hopefully we will.

Joe. You are wrong on all counts.. Romney was reasonable and a gentleman ?? huh.. he tried to do a jim lehrer to Shiefer, but bob was having none of it. Romney is a prep school bully and last night he brought a sweaty brow and a pencil to a knife fight. He was eviscerated by the President, because Romney's foreign policy extent is to insult the British on the Olympics. Romney is a fool and a fraud.

DS,

I do not know what debate you were watching, but it must not have been the one that took place last night.

What you really mean is that Obama and Biden won their respective debates.

Yet team Obama/Biden are still sinking in the polls. Maybe debates don't matter much, or winning the overall debate isn't as important as winning specific issues - e.g., the economy, jobs, etc., important areas where Romney continues to gain support while Obama looks weak and feeble.

Mitt Romney will raise government spending John, not cut it. He says so.

Romney's grand idea for the economy is to cut programs that help Americans in order to cut taxes only for those who are very wealthy, with the claimed belief that those very wealthy persons will magically help everyone else through the simple course of them getting even richer. That is what he says.

That is austerity.

There is little that can be imagined that could prove more crippling to the future of the economy for most Americans.

I wish it had a fact check John.

They tried to implement a fact check, but it started smoking and then exploded when presented with a representative sample of posts.

We are most certainly better off under Obama then we would be under Romney. And that is the pertinent question.

RMom--that is a non-sequitur question. We are not better off now than we were 4 yrs ago. Why would we continue with the person who made it worse?

Last night was not a draw. You could argue that the second one was, but Obama was the clear winner last night, just as Romney was in the first election.

I meant debate, not election.

"Liberty,"

It is a non sequitur to assume that because you are worse off, if you are worse off, that it is because of the current president. It makes better sense, in this case, to look further back then Obama to obvious causes that everyone over the age of four has lived through and seen with their plain eyes.

And no, it makes a lot more sense to ask the question of whether Obama or Romney will make things better for you then it does to assume the better from a challenger without rhyme or reason. Particularly when that challenger's stated positions make clear that he will make things far worse.

It is entirely unreasonable here to base a vote on the question "are you better or worse off then you were four years ago."

then make sure you watch finding big foot, and the loch ness monster. i dont agree with obamas policies but the conspiracy wake jobs just sound so stupid. that movie was this biggest piece of propaganda junk ive ever seen. luckily it was so bad i found it somewhat comical- the only sad thing is the amount of morons who believe that.
if you want good conspiracy movies check out an inconvenient truth- about 9/11. i dont agree with it but its a lot more believable than 2016.

you know all muslims like obama love killing thousands of "his" people with drone attacks... morons

Yes, believe a movie by a guy who believes that his own book is the only source material the movie needs, if you don't count his bastardizing Obama's books and taking them totally out of context.

D'Souza's book is based on Obama's book - the film is largely narrated by Obama himself - his own words about what he believes. You have bought a product produced by mass media and have forgotten to look at the fine print...

Better for you to watch ET or some other fantasy. You will feel much better in the end.

right, so i can listen to the educated hollywood elite with their vast illusions of grandeur that Obama will take care of us all and make the world a better place just because we believe...please - be accountable and form your own opinion by learning from BOTH sides.

Yeah, and Obama is also a muslim terrorist who hates white people and was born on mars.

Agreed 100%. Unfortunately, neither candidate really inspires me to feel like he knows what the best course of action is. I feel like they're two sides of the same coin. Squeeze the middle class to pay for their pet projects. That's why I am voting for Gary Johnson. Rest assured, NJ is going blue, so there's no reason not to vote Johnson.

I encourage you to vote for Gary Johnson, XJS.

Ridgewood mom- Almost all of your "thoughts" are worth disregarding. Your posts border on the absurd most of the time (which is why I've basically stopped reading/engaging you) and most times I feel the audience is probably dumber for having read your posts. So for you to encourage anyone to do anything is hilarious unto itself. Please, go buy yourself a clue with all that money you've earned for yourself.

R.M.- Almost all of your "thoughts" are worth disregarding. Your posts border on the absurd most of the time (which is why I've basically stopped reading/engaging you) and most times I feel the audience is probably dumber for having read your posts. So for you to encourage anyone to do anything is hilarious unto itself. Please, go buy yourself a clue with all that money you've earned for yourself.

XJS,

I am so glad for you to tell me that you have "basically stopped reading/engaging you." And twice!

You pose eloquent and convincing argument. Without reason, but nonetheless, you have helped me to understand that I don't have a clue. I am also glad to know that you feel that I make people dumber and that I shouldn't encourage anyone to do anything because of my hilariousness. That's great! Thank you for your brilliant insight.

RM- You're welcome!

And thank you for reading/engaging me a third time after you "basically stopped."

XJS has stopped responding to me so many times he had to carry it over from a closed thread. lol

Without obstructionism in congress, Obama can do a lot of good there.

Rm- case in point (on why your posts aren't worth reading) - Obama had 2 years of a majority in both houses and squandered it by focusing on Healthcare and getting nothing much else done. As such, the midterm elections (which are basically viewed as a referendum on POTUS policies) went to his opposition (in the House). To blame all things bad on the House being republican is ridiculous. The president's job is to work with the other party and bring them to the table. And while I think the tea party idiots aren't worth engaging, had he engaged regular republicans on his ideas, he might have gotten their support on something in the last 2 years and maybe even passed a budget.
Succinctly:
1. Obama had the majority in both houses for 2 years and got little accomplished.
2. Voters voted to remove that majority and give the republicans a try in the House.
3. Deadlock still could have been avoided if Obama worked with Boehner and the more moderate republicans. They outnumber the insane teapartiers.

Yes it was. As was the bayonets & horses line. I think that in the last 2 debates he's been better at reaching his audience with his quips & his anecdotes. Where he loses me is his policy.

It was pretty darn sad to hear a presidential candidate state Syria was in Iran's way to the sea. Um, who invited Bush to the debate?

http://bloggingblue.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Syria.jpg

Peopleplease said: " Let's shrink the federal government and put control of policy in the hands of states." - agree 100%!!

I so agree!
Although when an ambassadop gets killed under your watch can you claim you are on the ball with regard to foreign policy?

sally S talk- Yes you can. If Bush can pull it off when thousands died and billions in damage in the middle of our own country, I think that 4 dying in the Middle East pales in comparison.

Herbert Hoover was a successful businessman.

Staples is one of the top 50 companies in the USA that pay their workers the least.

According to this survey, they pay better than the market rate for their industry - http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Staples,_Inc./Hourly_Rate

1% isn't anything to brag about The Stig, especially with a pay scale of $7.21 - 13.76 per hour.

You claimed that they paid their employees poorly, and that was a LIE. Now you are complaining that a cashier at Staples isn't paid in the same range as an aerospace engineer at Boeing?? Most of the jobs at Staples are workforce, entry-level positions, and for that, they are well compensated. Only in the Socialist, OWS world does everyone in America make the same salary.

Let me correct you The Stig. I said Staples is one of the top 50 companies that pay their employees the least. YOU looked at the data and decided they are paid poorly and stated as such. I agree with you. The majority of people I see at Staples are not high school entry level workers. They are adults.

So where's the link to your "authoritative" source?

And I never said they were HS students, just entry level workers. How much skill or experience does it take to stock shelves or run a cash register? How much do you think a company should be paying for a job that requires no skills or experience?

Your whole point of trying to embarrass Romney over Staples is a joke. His company helped to make it a successful employer of thousands of people. You should be praying that this success could be replicated hundreds of times.

If Obama had ever worked at a job where he was responsible for creating employment and wealth you'd be crowing about it.

His company helped to make it a successful employer of thousands of poorly paid people.
Fixed that for you.
"You should be praying that this success could be replicated hundreds of times"
I'm sure it will be if Romney is elected. That's the sad part. "Entry level" jobs with no other level to go to. That's not good for America.

It's amazing that someone who helped provide jobs for thousands is the Bad Guy, but the President, who has presided over the worst recovery ever, is St. Barack.

It's even more amazing when you consider the fact that after promising us millions of "good" jobs in the new Green sector, the best Obama can do is boost part-time employment - http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/08/us/the-new-american-job/index.html . The Dirty Little Secret is that it's what accounts for most of the recent "surge" in employment that provided a few weeks of better unemployment numbers.

If Obama stays in the WH long enough we'll all be unemployed or working PT at Dennys.

The Stig, which companies are the ones creating those part time jobs you decry and blame on the President? I'll tell you, companies like Staples. They cut workers hours so they are not considered full time employees and therefore do not have to provide benefits.

Romney had great ideas because they were the President's.

Ridgewood - wow, your observation is inspiring...bin laden's out of the way, but what about those he's left behind to do his work? THAT group has grown and the hate they have for us is unmeasurable. ask those americans who were kiilled in Libya how much they appreciate that bin laden's dead. btw, your comment earlier about obama hating americans which you think is so funny, maybe you don't remember a certain mentor and advisor to the obamas, someone who does hate america and what it stands for, Rev Jeremiah Wright??? hmmm, i wonder what ever happened to him? if Romney had an association with someone like him, he would never have had a career in politics

A&C you'll never know what goes on in the Mormon church. No non-Mormons are allowed inside. Even Ann Romney's parents couldn't see their own daughter get married.

I wonder if Romney is better off than he was four years ago.

Bellair--Ann Romney's parents and about 300 other guests were at their daughter's wedding. When Ann & Mitt went to Salt Lake City the next day to have a Mormon ceremony, only Mormons were in the temple. Right afterward, across the street, was a wedding breakfast for all, including her parents.

Obviously bin Laden is worse off now than 4 yrs ago.

As is America.

Liberty, they were not allowed at the wedding. They were at the reception.

Perhaps you should. Bin Laden did not live in the U.S, so it is not relevant to the economic chaos perpetuated by BO. Since you say we are better off with OB then we would be with Romney, (note the use of the subjunctive mood), then you must be one of those "rich folks". Feel free to pay more taxes. No one forces you to take every deduction you are permitted. Romney doesn't. BTW, when OB had the House and Senate, he still couldn't get all of his wonderful legislation approved.

On Romney not taking every deduction to which he is entitled. I find that odious in a couple of ways.

First, I believe it was a calculated decision not to do so in order to stick with the tax rate below which he said he had never dropped.

Second, it was Mitt Romney himself who stated "frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don’t think I’d be qualified to become president".

No one is keeping you here.. so, get out !!

Since you belong to the party of racism, I'm not surprised.

It's an internet poll, polly. Participation is voluntary, so it's impossible to oversample anyone.

Walter, they don't get tax breaks for specifically shipping jobs overseas. They get a tax break for capital expenditures and that includes shipping jobs overseas. To fix this, they just have to add a location requirement to capital expenditure deductions and be done with it. Since neither party REALLY wants to be the one to tax corporations more, they don't fix it and blame the other party for the loophole. Cute, right?

Walter, Americans love their low Walmart prices. You and I know that stuff all comes from China, where wages are pitifully low. If a politician suggests bringing those jobs back here, he/she needs to look voters in the eye and tell them to be happy paying much higher prices. And having their incomes erode from higher inflation. This is just not so simple.

Thank you XJS! This needs to change, it's part of the reason China has all this money! I'd rather (if we really have to) send jobs to Mexico, South America or even Canada. Loopholes are killing this great country! Most of the stuff I buy at Walmart is crap anyway. Maybe if it produced closer to home we'd offset the price difference by spending less on transportation costs to get it here. Just a thought and my two cents! Either way....people get out and VOTE! Republicans and Democrats need to see that the people of this country care and have had enough of their politics!!!

Wrong, Ann. We have less respect. The very fact of our debt has made us a subject of derision. Obama came across as rude, petty, and unpresidential, but frankly I don't care about that. I care about his record which is awful. I would never vote for him. Nor do I care who Romney's advisor is. I care about his own judgment and it appears to me to be sound. I have much more confidence in him to get our economy straightened out than I do in Obama. I feel less and less safe with Obama in charge. He made promises he has failed to keep. Why would you believe him this time around?

Diane, if you ask people from other countries, they respect the US more now that Obama is in office. They hated Bush. Fox loves to spew this, and it's misleading.

Diane the reason our debt sells is because we are respected and the Countries that buy our debt have every confidence it will be made good.

If John McCain had told Iran what to do, by god they would certainly have shut up and done as they were told.

g,

I take it this means you have not applied for Social Security or Medicare. Certainly if you saw the Great Depression you are of an advanced enough age to qualify.

The French health system is the best in the world for their citizens.

g,

Social Security and Medicare take money from my quarterly filings and give it to people who are no longer working.

I personally do not begrudge this, it's part of the deal we make to live in this society, and some small part of me still holds out some hope that I'll be able to benefit from it after paying for the past few decades. But is is certainly definable as (your words) "the government takes money from somebody and gives it to somebody else". It can also be called "Redistribution" if one chooses to do so in order to score political points.

Concerned Citizen, I agree. That's why we should really try to take the Republican party back from the evangelicals.

Concerned Citizen, That why Evengelicals make lousy Americans. We weren't designed for a religious Government.

Liberty, I realize you want to nit pick, but the point was and still is you will never know what is said in the Mormon church unless you are a Mormon. You are not allowed inside. They could be saying things 100 times worse than Reverend Wright. You'll never know.

Bellair--I don't think it's nit-picking to be correct. What you said about the parents and the wedding was misleading. Whatever is said in the Mormon church stays in the Mormon church, so what. Unfortunately, we get to hear everything the evil Mr. Wright says: "God damn America!" for example. And this is a man who mentored, befriended and influenced BO.

It's only misleading when you choose to take one tiny part of a statement out of context, like you did with me and Rev Wright.

That's why it's so stupid for Obama to have said "we haven't used bayonets in many years".

Bellair--That's exactly what you did. And how did I do that with you and Wright?
Did he not say "God damn America?"

Liberty, JD, don't worry. Bellair thinks we were a part of WWI in 1916 (hint: we entered in April of 1917). If he doesn't have the knowledge to know something & doesn't have the intellect to google it, then I'm not really sure what arguing with him will accomplish. . .the man/woman thinks that facts are optional in decision making!

@ Liberty - In what branch of the service did you serve?

When was the last time an enemy combatant was killed by a US serviceman using a bayonet? The president's job is to prepare our armed forces for future conflicts, not those of the past.

Perhaps the reason why Liberty and XJS are so angry is because they have comprehension problems, or their tinfoil hats are too tight. Keep dwelling on bayonets and the past, Rainmen.

Yes Bellair. It's also known as grasping at straws. They usually start in with the ad hominem somewhere around there. So and so is stupid. So and so isn't worth reading. Etc.

Bellair- your posts are factually incorrect re: WWI & weaponry. You are often wrong but never in doubt. Good job!

Serious question: Are you and Ridgewood mom the same poster or are there really two of you that are this stupid?

Have you stopped responding to me again yet XJS?

lets agree to disagree at 53% to your 37%

So, the "taliban chief" had bin Laden killed as part of his evil plan, did he? Mr. Bacon, sir, you are fried.

hsr,
Just what lies did Romney tell?

You should ask that of Obama, he's an expert at lying.

How come all you super right wing people use names like USA1 and Patriot and Liberty when you are nothing of the kind. the only reason the Congress turned so right is because of all those Red State mooches that live off the Blue States. They have more people without insurance, more people in poverty and the lowest education standards. You want to be real Americans use your real names.

DanGrant--Not wanting BO to destroy the country for another 4 years is "super right wing?" You can have whatever opinion you want about Congress, we do still have the right to free speech. But never challenge my patriotism when you know nothing about me. My name is no way relevant to my posts and, I do not trust strangers!

Only in your dreams, Kevin.

I don't have to dream...my guy will win Ohio!

Don't be so presumptuous Kevin. You may be disappointed with the results.

Armando,

In case you didn't hear me the first time...Obama will win!

New Time Poll for Ohio puts the President up by 5 points:

http://swampland.time.com/2012/10/24/time-poll-obama-leads-by-5-in-ohio/

The President's early voting advantage will be very difficult to overcome.

It's not a question of being "presumptuous", it's about being correct.

Kevin Nedd, your guy blew it with this Terrorist Attack cover up. What an idiot. You and all of Obama's minions are going to be crying in a few days. You lib morons are supporting a failure. You can kiss his ass goodbye.

Armando,

Agreeing with Obama isn't the problem. The inconsistent of changing one's positions in the last minute just to get elected is the problem.

Please list the lies Romney told during that debate.

Fight for term limits.

DS,

I have never read so much balderdash in one place in my life.

I bet you find it titillating.

DS, Apparently the New Yorker does selective reporting. How do I know? The didn't report the following, that's how I know:
Our President, Barack Obama, was a member of a radical communist party, called the Illinois New Party and/or the Chicago New Party, which has Chicago Mob and Black Communist Activist roots.

New Party News Spring 1996 page 1, celebrated the Davis’ Congressional victory and went on to say;

"New Party members won three other primaries this Spring in Chicago: Barack Obama (State Senate), Michael Chandler (Democratic Party Committee) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary)..."these victories prove that small 'd' democracy can work' said Obama".

He admits receiving Marxist training (Marxism is the ideology of using law as a means of oppression and control).

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-march-8-2012/the-socialist-network

Let me count the lies....none.

Please list the lies Romnney told.

G>-Romney: Syria is Iran’s only ally in the Arab world. It’s their route to the sea.”

A quick glance at a map of the Middle East easily throws out this claim. Perhaps Romney was referring specifically to the Mediterranean Sea, but he certainly didn’t say so. Syria and Iran are allies, that part is true, but a large part of Iran’s sovereign border is coastline that moves from the Persian Gulf to the Gulf of Oman and into the Arabian Sea, which, The New York Times’ Thom Shanker points out, “leads into the Indian Ocean and onward to the world’s high seas.”

Stewart Resmer,

Look at the map: Not only does Obama not know how many states there are, he also doesn’t know where they are.

During the 2008 primary campaign, he explained why he was trailing Hillary Clinton in Kentucky: “Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it’s not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.” Obama’s home state of Illinois, and not Arkansas, shares a border with Kentucky.

Obaba sure knows his American geography, doesn't he,

Yes, Obama has good ideas and a consistent vision, unlike Romney.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9njHHyRI7g

Ridgewood mom, Would you list the good ideas and his vision, please.

Watch your video g.

From your New Yorker article:..." A visitor to the F.D.R. Memorial, in Washington, is confronted by these words from Roosevelt’s second Inaugural Address, etched in :
stone: “The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide for those who have too little.”

From the mouth of FDR Social Security, just another vote pandering exercise

FDR admitted that the Social Security Act, which we are burdened with trying to "fix" now, was nothing but a vote pandering device. FDR said, "I guess you're right on the economics, but those taxes were never a problem of economics. They were politics all the way through." 3 This was a quote from FDR in reply to the fact that Social Security Payroll Taxes were a drag on the economy.

You should learn the truth about FDR!

G.

Since you're clearly a typical angry white man.. Bush increased the debt by 175% over 8 years.. it would have been more, but they never included the wars in the debt (they were in a separate account). When he took office, he implemented tax cuts and medicare drug benefit expansions - these and the cost of paying the debt, as well as fixed costs are actually nearly 90% of the annual debt. The right thing to do is to cut fix costs, including military spending (it was $230B in 2002 and it's $630B now, not a needed level).

And regarding the massive crowds in Colorado, take a close look.. not a minority in sight.

I guess you still can't hit the g spot...

DS,
I guess you're a typical angry white man when you successfully refute the lies spewed by the vacuous liberal progressives. In the future don't lie and you will not incite the angry white man to refute your lies with facts.

The President’s media apologists are attempting to carry water for Obama and shift the blame for the budget mess squarely at the feet of President George W. Bush.

Specifically, they argue that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the tax cuts of 2001 and 2003, and the recession are all to blame for today’s deficits.

It’s an argument we heard before from Obama since the days of his campaign, and it’s an argument that is as flawed today as it was then.

One simple number explains it well: the budget deficit figure in 2007, the last Bush year prior to the recession. The tax cuts were in full effect, both wars were raging, and the recession had not yet struck, yet the budget deficit in 2007 was $160 billion, or about a tenth of Obama’s deficit this year.

DS,
you can't win unless you bring up the race card. Shame, shame , shame,

i saw that...Kid Rock performed and 10K people hiked to the amphitheater to show their support - very inspiring to see :)

Townie - seriously, i can't wait for it all to be over as well, i'm consumed by this - mainly because of my job. the last 4 years have been difficult and costly for me. if obama wins this election, my clients will stop spending and most likely, i won't have a job come january. this is the sad truth and unfortunately, a very real perspective.

Anonymous and Concerned - you made my point. You are inwardly focused on losing your job and this has become your entire field of vision. By "perspective" I mean doing the opposite, taking a step back to see the big picture, and then applying this to your own life.

Unlike many of the self-satisfied bullies who have written here, you are polite and invite empathy. I'll offer the thought that no matter who wins the election, you and your clients will need to innovate to remain competitive.

actually townie, my field of vision stretches much farther than you suggest...i'm a professional in the staffing industry and work with companies who have not been hiring for the past 2 years because of the unsettled feeling this administration has given them AND they are telling me that they will most likely have to lay off more employees IF obama wins again. our jobs come from the top, not from the middle class - i do not want to depend on the government for my healthcare, or my food, or anything else obama has set us up for. if you can't see how he's done that, then you deserve what's coming if he wins again.

Townie,
I think that you spoke a bit too soon in stating that "Anonymous and Concerned" was "polite" and invited "empathy." :)

You are also absolutely correct in stating that Anon has no logical basis for blaming his/her problems on Obama, nor thinking that Romney will do anything (or stop doing anything) to make those problems better.

ridgewood mom - must be nice being you...you appear to be as naive as your words suggest. i only wish i could be as naive, i could frolic and spew nonsense all day too. but i have to work for a living...

Anonymous and Concerned - I just don't buy the simplistic answer that the lack of hiring is the Obama administration. I think it is (1) generalized uncertainty and (2) lack of revenue growth.

(1) There are virtually no centrist Republicans remaining and the party leaders decided from the get-go that they would fight this President tooth-and-nail and dedicate themselves to his defeat. Changes the Democrats managed to push through, especially the health care changes, remain very tenuous. If Gov Romney wins, "Day One" will be interesting. All this contributes to the unsettled feeling you speak of. Business wants certainty and stability above all.

(2) The other thing that drives hiring is revenue. If sales are up, eventually hiring must follow, there is only so much efficiency and productivity you can squeeze out. If a company is healthy and on the edge of hiring they will hire starting the day after the election, as this will largely eliminate the uncertainty. If they are not healthy, a scapegoat is often more convenient than introspection.

There is a LOT of money on the sidelines. It'll come off the sidelines after the election, regardless of the election outcome. I travel a lot for work and it has increased my appreciation for the system we have and I believe the USA will be fine.

The heading to elicit the posts :

Obama-Romney Debate Round Three: Who Has Made The Best Case?

People are responding to the lead editorial.

Kevin, the latest Gallup pole, Oct 23, 2012

New Poll today shows Romney leads Obama 51 to 45%

election 2012
October 23, 2012
By: Sahit Muja

The Gallup poll you cited was published yesterday. The Gallup Poll linked above was published today and show's Romney's lead cut to 3 points. Try and keep up.

Here is the latest Gallup Poll:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/157817/election-2012-likely-voters-trial-heat-obama-romney.aspx

I guess Donald Trump didn't have any election altering information today after all. lol

Trump is a baffoon. I love Team Obama's response:

"The reaction should come from Boston because the mogul is “Mitt Romney’s biggest supporter. He (Romney) owns everything he says”"

g,
Why was that last post addressed to me?

g,
Its rather simple. Barack Obama was born in 1961. Vietnam ended in 1975 when he was 14 years old. That is not an eligible age for service. There was not a draft to be dodged since Obama has been of age. Mitt Romney was born in 1941. In 1975 he was 34 year old. He was of eligible age during the conflict but dodged serving.

Mitt Romney is a draft dodger.

Your points contrasting Obama as a pothead are offer no food for thought. I know. He also wasn't born in the US and is a Muslim. We get it.

g, because you're interested in historical accuracy, and you should be, if you are bringing up what the candidates did in high school please note that Romney held down a crying fellow student and cut his hair because he perceived him to be gay, humiliating him.
You may also note there was no draft to dodge when Obama became of age.
You may also consider those companies you list are the ones providing jobs that pay low wages and are part time, making the employees have such a low salary they don't pay the taxes you want them to pay ( usually the things your kind blames on the President)

Mitt Romney is a draft dodger.

Those conflicts did not involve a draft, or a dodging thereof.

During the Vietnam lottery, Mitt Romney had four deferments. He went to France on his Mormon mission, to convert others to Mormonism, and the church conferred him with a special "priest" status specifically so he could avoid the draft.

Facts.

Mitt Romney is a draft dodger.

Tee,
scraping the bottom of the pudding dish? Tell that to the men and women who served during the 1980 to 1989 period.

These men and women didn't sit around smoking pot with their choom gang, did they?

You should be ashamed to think so little of the men and women who served.

Obama should have volunteered for the service during the 1980 to 1989 periold. He didn't and shame on him.

g: I guess you agree with Ann Romney also that Romney trying to impose his religion on others in Paris, France during the Vietnam era was "national service" on a par with the military?

@g: Way to take a comment completely out of context. Histrionics in this forum are unbecoming. Good day.

g, it seems then that you agree that Romney was a draft dodger and that is a bad thing. Shame on him, right?

Invoking Bill Clinton: The last refuge of someone with nothing more to say.

People definitely shouldn't vote for Bill Clinton in November. Or any draft dodger. Mitt Romney is a draft dodger. We shouldn't vote for him.

Got ya, didn't I?

No g. Just Mitt Romney is a draft dodger.

You're rabid.

Mitt Romney is a draft dodger.

People definitely shouldn't vote for Bill Clinton in November. Or any draft dodger. Mitt Romney is a draft dodger. We shouldn't vote for him.

Romney will drive up the debt. The figures that he gives us tell us this. He will also do this while cutting essential services for Americans and putting more money into the pockets of only a small handful of the wealthiest individuals. These are his words.

I am just happy keeping the draft dodger (Romney) and his military hating congressmen sidekick (Ryan) out of the White House. The consequences of those two would literally be millions of Americans left to die in the gutter.

The UNITED States is We the People not Me the Individual. Your view is contrary to those of the Founding Fathers.

Ridgewood Mom said she didn't approve of draft dodgers and military haters.Why do you, g?

Weren't you just saying that war was good? Are you just throwing anything at the wall to see what sticks?

And Mitt Romney is still a draft dodger, and you yourself hold draft dodgers in disdain

Indeed, Obama has done a great deal to support military servicemen and women.

Romney is anti-military but supports the industrial complex, because of private industry money to be made at the expense of our servicemen and women. This is well supported by he and Ryan's record.

You should be ashamed to think so little of the men and women who served.

I don't think you can honestly say someone can dodge something that doesn't exist.
Romney was indeed a draft dodger as the draft was in place and according to you, you don't like draft dodgers, or do you? You've been on both sides of the coin.

You have a very smart dog. You should vote for your dog for president and not Romney the Draft Dodger.

Maybe you can be your dog's running mate. It's clear you aren't as smart as he so you really shouldn't be at the top of the ticket. I'll bet g would vote for you, as long as you aren't a draft dodger.

You already wrote a lot of silly stuff before this. Don't worry about that.

Did you copy and paste that from Urbanlegends.com?

Just in case you can't find that here's the link for you: http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obama_military_insurance.htm

"it's false that the President uttered the statements above in response to veterans groups who objected to the proposal. The alleged quotes were fabricated. They were actually penned by satirist John Semmens in a piece that appeared on March 21, 2009 on the website AZConservative.org."

I know how you like to be accurate g.

You should study how the Polish Army was prepared to fight WWII with the best equipment of the 19th Century and see how they fared. We don't need more horses and bayonets.

President Obama supports the service men and women serving our country. Romney the draft dodger does not. He supports the people making money off the people he would send to war.

Keep spreading the lies like Obama and Benghazi.....

Obama wants to GUT the military.

He doesn't even know how to pronounce corpsman!!!

How's that teleprompter working out for ya???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNr66HHhMjs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1DO388jsf8

There is no lie. I would give you a youtube clip of Romney mentioning the service men and women during his convention, but sadly there is none because he never mentioned them.

Psst, that just proves Romney is a draft dodger.

The same one that Mittens and his five (5) patriotic sons did!

Surely it was the Muslim Brotherhood!

He got deferments, thereby shirking his duty and dodging the draft to spend the time in Paris.

"Romney is surging and winning everywhere" HUH? You're funny.

I guess you missed the word "seems" in the headline.

Obama will be spending the last two weeks defending his administration's terrible performance, and more importantly, lack of candor, on Benghazi. Not exactly the way the Ax and the Poof envisioned the end of the campaign.

Obama had also better hope that the market stops tanking over bad earnings reports AND the the final jobs numbers appear to be defensible.

Right now the "No Leaners" map shows Obama hanging on by a thread (aka Ohio). And there are several other ways for Romney to get to 270 (don't bother to demand proof, we both know that the combos exist).

Lots of pucked-up sphincters in Chicago.

I understand your mind well now.

Nothing listed here is standard fare for Presidential candidates. Quite frankly, it's none of yours or anyone else's business. Nor do does any of this have any relevance on his performance as president.

But there are some documents which historically fall within the standard fare of what we expect Presidential candidates to provide. For example complete Federal Tax returns going back several years in accordance with a majority of recent candidates who accordign to PolitiFact, release far more than two years of tax returns. So the question you should be asking is what is Romney hiding by only releasing two years as opposed to meeting the standard of "far more than two years?"

Sounds like someone reminiscent of "THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE " or should I say..THE IRANIAN or MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD CANDIDATE?

Did you mean to leave off these accomplishments?

—23 Million Unemployed
—47 Million on Food Stamps
—5.5 Million Homes in Crisis/Foreclosure
—$4500 Drop in Household Income
—$5.5 Trillion of New Debt
—100% Increase in Gas Prices
- Healthcare costs up significantly
- 4 $1 trillion+ budget deficits despite promise to cut in half

That is some record for someone who promised HOPE AND CHANGE!

Is NJ better off than 4 years ago? NOPE

Will it be better off under Obama then under Romney? Yep!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

OBAMA IS A FAILURE AND A FRAUD.

“President Clinton drew a stark contrast between himself and President Obama tonight. Bill Clinton worked with Republicans, balanced the budget, and after four years he could say you were better off.

Barack Obama hasn’t worked across the aisle – he’s barely worked with other Democrats – and has the worst economic record of any president in modern history.

President Clinton’s speech brought the disappointment and failure of President Obama’s time in office clearly into focus.” – Ryan Williams, Romney Spokesman

And Rice didn't join in the criticism of Obama on Libya.

How can you find the aisle when you are golfing, campaigning or vacationing all the time.....110 rounds of golf x 4 hours each = 440 hours add in travel time, Obama has spend 1/2 of a year of golfing.

FAILURE

I want Obama to win so we can have full blown communist control of the governmnet and economy:

Our President, Barack Obama, was a member of a radical communist party, called the Illinois New Party and/or the Chicago New Party, which has Chicago Mob and Black Communist Activist roots.

New Party News Spring 1996 page 1, celebrated the Davis’ Congressional victory and went on to say;

"New Party members won three other primaries this Spring in Chicago: Barack Obama (State Senate), Michael Chandler (Democratic Party Committee) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary)..."these victories prove that small 'd' democracy can work' said Obama".

He admits receiving Marxist training (Marxism is the ideology of using law as a means of oppression and control).

Dan you are demented. You belong in the Obama camp. You have been dumbed-down lower from the nadir you started at. I bet you even find humorous President Obama's latest campaign ad with sexual innuendos for very young girls and mentioning choosing someone like him ..and birth control. This President is a cancer upon on nation, and has no decency or class. He diminishes the dignity of the office of the Presidency and is so low and desperate that the only thing he has left is his vile profanity that he is now spewing on his opponents. Obama has to GO! The sooner the better!

Just wait for the women to see Obama's new campaign ad about young girls having sex for the first time and choosing someone like him who thinks about birth control to protect her....This is so SICK! He also is using PROFANITY Against opponents. This administration has no dignity...they are disgusting! They are an embarrassment and attempt to sully the esteem of America.

Most important issues? That makes no sense.

How about comparing the two candidates, President Obama and Romney, based on their positions and on what they will do with the country.

I actually thought more of Hilary before all of this. I'm surprised she let Obama pull her down to such a low level. It's really sickening to me.

Ann,
History of Obama and the liberals past 4 years

No debt ceiling plan of their own.

No budget for well over 800 days.

No leadership from their President.

No jobs.

No economic growth.

It seems the only thing Democrats are capable of these days is doing nothing. And killing any and every idea that comes from Republicans.

And whining. A lot!

So President Obama and the Democrats were given carte blanche to fix the mess the country was in.

But rather than fix it, they have made things worse in their quest for absolute and eternal power.

A wholly unpopular ObamaCare bill was shoved down the throats of a public overwhelmingly against it.

Stimulus money was handed out to the hand picked “winners” as defined by the Obama Administration. This money went to unions who produce competitively overpriced, shabby goods and companies that produce “green” technology with price tags so high their products are not viable in the marketplace.

And to make them viable, the lefties have stifled any and all competition. Oil, coal and natural gas have been attacked, sending energy prices sky high in the hopes of forcing Americans to buy expensive (and toxic) light bulbs and cars that they don’t want.

Ann, continued from above

I want it and I want it NOW is the new call of the left. Without the patience to allow the private sector to develop cost competitive alternatives at a natural pace, the rush to force these things down the collective throats of America has predictably backfired and the result is high unemployment, inflation and massive national debt.

Americans have grown weary of waiting for Obama and the Progressive Democrats to fix the problem, but all they see is a doubling down on the failures.

There is not one single aspect of life in America that has improved under the Obama regime. Not one!

Obama has been given a free pass from the beginning. His flaws have been ignored, his inability to lead has been swept under the rug.

But the one thing that cannot be hidden from the public (for long) is the results of the most inept man to ever hold the office of president.

Obama spent weeks in silence while oil spewed in the Gulf, and his minions claimed he was “engaged”.

He sits silently while the Senate fails to produce a budget.

He sat silently for months before acting on Afghanistan.

He sat silently as protestors nearly brought down the regime in Iran.

And the list goes on and on.

But they are not elevating Obama, they are lowering America to give the illusion Obama is on a pedestal.

The republican agenda is to stonewall so they can blame the Obama administration for a better excuse to unseat him.

The Republicans refuse to work with the President and hold the lives of 98% of the American People hostage to benefit their top donors.

The better man for you and the American People is Barack Obama. Don't go back to the policies that will put us back into such a difficult situation the President Obama has been working tirelessly to save us from.

lOL g
Thanks to Obama.....perhaps you were not paying attention. A Bush agenda was put in place prior to Obama! This administration sat back.....playing golf, eating ice cream, perpetually campaigning and going on many vacations. In fact it was 3 other times that he could have been nabbed but Obama would not take any action THEN they had eyes on him again and they did not wait for Obama....in fact ... The TEAM went in and took him out. Obama claims now that He got Osama but like everything else he either blames someone else for all his mistakes, but is quick to claim victory for Himself when Someone else accomplishes something positive. Obama is a failure and a Fraud. He Has to GO!

yes bush had 8 years with his agenda to find capture or Kill Bin Laden. He didn't come close. You cannot seriously think that Bush made it possible to get Bin Laden. Its our military and the militarys commander in chief who got him.

Marc, haven't you heard the scandalous news?

http://www.theonion.com/articles/weeping-obama-breaks-down-admits-bin-laden-still-a,30058/

Bob Woodward's "The Price of Politics," published last month.

The portrait it contains of Mr. Obama—of a president who is at once over his head, out of his depth and wholly unaware of the fact—hasn't received the attention it deserves.

Throughout the book, which is a journalistic history of the president's key economic negotiations with Capitol Hill, Mr. Obama is portrayed as having the appearance and presentation of an academic or intellectual while being strangely clueless in his reading of political situations and dynamics. He is bad at negotiating—in fact doesn't know how. His confidence is consistently greater than his acumen, his arrogance greater than his grasp.

He admits receiving Marxist training (Marxism is the ideology of using law as a means of oppression and control).

g,

I think this post marks the first real agreement I've ever had with your otherwise rather disconnected stream of consciousness. Barack Obama has proven to be a rather bad negotiator, often making concessions before negotiations start, rather than taking a hard-line approach and forcing those concessions to come through the process. He appears to hold the rather naive view that others in Washington wish to work with him to reach consensus, rather than the realistic view that he needs to begin from a far-left position and negotiate towards the center.

The fact that people like yourself accuse him of the most wild-eyed leftist traits would actually work in his favor if he was better at this game, because he's got an awful lot of room to move to the left before approaching anything like what has been pinned on him.

It's almost as though he expects good faith efforts and reasonable discussion from people in Washington. Where he came up with a thought like that I have no idea.

You drank the Koolaid Mickey laced Obama Special. The 47% comment was taken out of context at a fundraiser. Romney apologized that his words were misunderstood.
Look Just Facts.....Obama is Buying Votes! He and his team are giving our Vodka, medical marijuana, houses, food, computers, disability to those that that ran out their unemployment benefits, etc, etc, etc. Buying Votes...isn't that offensive and base enough for you. America has hit a new LOW under Obama. he Has to GO!

When you finally wake up to reality you will find that our Country is being destroyed.
Our Constitution and Bill of Rights has been ignored.
Congress has been usurped.
Our Country is being bankrupt.
Check out the Treaties that are against the interests of the United States that Obama has entered into.
Check out Obama's Executive Orders....the Lost Sea Treaty, Martial Law, seizing control of all electric, food and water, control over the National Guard, seizing Private
Property, facilitating the Sustainability/Green/Agenda 21 Scam that is A CANCER metastasizing across our NATION and the list goes on and on.....
Hope you like living in a cage- like stack and pack housing unit in a urban Hub without a car and adhere to your restricted area! Your Vote for this dictator is a direct Vote AGAINST America and a FREE people. OBAMA HAS TO GO!!!! ALL HIS RADICALS,
SOCIALISTS! And COMMUNISTS that HE put in His Administration MUST GO ALSO!

Oh, Patriot, you left out the Rand Corporation, the Denver airport, IRS ammunition purchases, body bags and the reverse vampires.

This was at a closed fundraiser. When one is running for an elected office of course you assess where your votes most likely would come from.....that is being intelligent, realistic and pragmatic. If Obama is allocating out our tax payers dollars.....it is not his money......of course he is attempting to reach every last vote he can. How does he get those votes? By preying on people who find themselves in dire circumstances, which of course he HAS CAUSED. The old progressive and socialistic TRICK...create the problem and then miraculously appear and help solve it WITH OTHER PEOPLES MONEY...Taxpayer dollars. With that Obama purposely causes the unfortunate victims to feel indebted to him thus cast their VOTE for him. It is all a ruse and if you don't understand the process you are lost. A Vote for Obama is a vote for a Communist and the end of the American way of life. They did the same thing with Foreclosures and they have infiltrated our society with false environmentalism using the United Nations Agenda 21 to cede our sovereignty to foreign control.

Patriot, How can you claim to be a patriot and you can say this about your president. Like it or not he is the president of the United states. He is answerable to the constitution and Congress and the people. How can you call him a communist? The only thing that his administration and the majority of the people of the US want is for the wealthiest people pay the same as the middle class. I don't care about me and what I make. Ill be fine. What I care about is there is no reason why people in this country should go hungry and without healthcare. We can afford it if everyone is not greedy.

In 1970 the tax rate for the top 1% was at a high of 60% and now its at say 35 (approx) how does this translate to communism? The point is here that the wealthiest people have been able to get the rates lower disproportionately.

Communism is a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.

Tell me how any of the policies of the current administration will effect or have affected you?

Romney is a sociopath, plain and simple. He doesn't care about half of Americans. Or more.

I thought you were gonna say because he opened his mouth? But this is better.

You are absolutely delusional and a lost cause......You will make a good serf.

But if Romeny said these things he would become a mormon god. The difference is I believe Obama and what he says. When Romney speaks he doesn't appear genuine. Especially when he says one thing and then says another. There is so much of evidence of it. I haven't seen anything like that from Obama.

lol

Obama went to the doctor. Both his ears were burnt. The doctor exclaimed, "What happened?" He told the doctor that as he was ironing his shirt, someone called and he picked up the iron instead of the receiver of the phone and stuck it to his ear.

When the doctor asked about the other ear, he ejaculated, "The son of a bitch called back."

Yes....and he is talking to his BOSS!

MARC.. Obvious that you have not been watching the LAST FOUR YEARS!

STEWART RESMER.... THE BARTENDER THEN SPEAKS TO A BESOTTED SHADY LOOKING CHARACTER THAT WHO IS ADDRESSING EVERYONE IN THE BAR AS COMRADE? The bartender says HEY! OBAMA! DO YOU WANT ONE LAST ONE FOR THE ROAD?
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Classy g! Wasn't that joke originally directed at disabled people?

"But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there's not evidence of that in their daily lives. "

Doesn't seem like he was writing them off, does it?

BB, context is for losers.

When Chris Matthews got married there was not a single black face in the Church or reception; Why?

But Matthews has made his own share of racially insensitive remarks. In fact, he got into hot water for comments he made about Obama, after viewers complained they thought they had racist overtones.

In January 2010, Matthews made an issue of the president’s skin color.

Following Obama’s first State of the Union address, Matthews said, “You know, I forgot he was black tonight for an hour.”

I didn't know Chris Matthews serves as the President's Camapign Chairman? Pretty weak retort to the BellairBerdan's point.

It appears that "g" is essentially repeating verbatim Anne Coulter's rhetoric - and we all know just how credible Ms. Coulter is. In her book "Treason", fact-checkers found that dozens and dozens of her "footnotes" were completely wrong or outright fabricated. And she has continued her fine literary tradition with her subsequent works of fiction.

Patriot,

Even if the Bilderburgers secret group was capable, do you think Romney and his cronies have no association to it? Not only that, Peoples effective lifespan will not outlive the ability to get this plan to where you think it is going. The world, the people, the politics all change. You need to sit back an evaluate yourself how the world works and how little any "one" group or agenda can change the world. Hitler was the closest to this and guess what, he did it through murder, death and oppression. He didn't do it through offering healthcare alternatives , getting us out of war, helping to end discrimination amongst gays in the military or gay marriage. Seriously. Understand the world.

Man you are not based in reality. Again, why would anyone want this agenda if they wont live to see it? People are people dude, we all want to watch big bang theory and have a nice car and a nice house and go out to eat. 78 years is about all you can expect to live on this planet. 30 of them in some way hindered by youth old age or health. Think about any one task you would like to accomplish and decide if that is something you will accomplish. You have way to much free time if you can worry about coffins and save the planet. Im not for any agenda but what is so bad about 1 world government anyway? I mean obviously the many we have works just fine. Regardless, this has nothing to do with Romney VS OBama and surely republicans would fall in to the agenda as well or more. I can remember the Bilderberger or whatever and New world order crap back in Reagan days.

ok as much as i dont want to dignify this looney with a response i just have one questions. you say this new world order mission has been going on since the 60's, since the 60's weve had republican and democratic presidents and according to you this consaricy is still going on. so if weve had dems and reps in office and this is still gonig on wouldnt it not make a difference who wins this election obama or romney?

Careful Marc, you sound as though you've been brainwashed by the cult of science, which is part of the grander conspiracy known as "reasonable and level headed thinking." And watch it with all of that smart stuff you think. It makes you an elitist.

Ridgewood mom, Im just a regular guy who looks at all of this as just being regular people everyday who go to work and enjoy their family and their dogs and a nice burger. I am not religious in anyway but was raised a Catholi and went to catholic school. I consider myself normal. I am not an elitist, just way cool.

So, I am not the best speller or typist....Big Deal.
Absolutely correct, there are members and followers in both parties responsible.
It is NOT a conspiracy theory....it is going on right here...right now. Everywhere and with stealth...like the quiet paws of a feline's feet but the last so many years it has excellerated, especially under Obama with his Executive order on Sustainabilit and the Farm Act etc. it is really ingrained now with layer upon layer of organizations etc.
Romney is a decent man, I believe with all my faith and heart that he will do the best for America. He honors our Military and our Constitution. Romney will cut spending, get rid of duplicate unneeded spending, restore our honor, invest in real tangible jobs,
And protect our Nation and close and enforce our borders and our LAWS.
OBama is out to destroy us....Benghazi murders that he simply ignored, shrugged off as " being BUMPS IN THE ROAD", open borders, regionalization, Solindra and other green energy FLOPS that just drained us of money making us more vulnerable. OBAMA MUST GO!!
ELECT ROMNEY RYAN To RESTORE OUR GREAT COUNTRY
VOTE ROMNEY RYAN for A BETTER ECONOMIC FUTURE!

Do they sell Bilderburgers and Bilderfries at Bilder King?

They're on the Million Dollar Menu RM

I WILL NOT vote for a President who gives the orders to ASSASSINATE Americans without a fair trial"

In late January, I wrote about the Obama administration's "presidential assassination program," whereby American citizens are targeted for killings far away from any battlefield, based exclusively on unchecked accusations by the Executive Branch that they're involved in Terrorism.

At the time, The Washington Post's Dana Priest had noted the Joint Chiefs of Staff compiled "hit lists" of Americans, and Priest suggested that the American-born Islamic cleric Anwar al-Awlaki was on that list.

The following week, Obama's Director of National Intelligence, Adm. Dennis Blair, acknowledged in Congressional testimony that the administration reserves the "right" to carry out such assassinations.
By Glenn Greenwald

i WILL NOT vote for a President who lies:

Obama lied about his connections to Acorn:

Obama helped Acorn in organizing of “Project VOTE” in 1992.
Obama was a community organizer.
Obama represented Acorn as attorney, ACORN vs. Edgar.
Obama was involved in Acorn leadership training sessions.
Obama, Annenberg Challenge, William Ayers, Acorn.
Acorn, New party endorsement of Obama.
February 25th to May 17th 2008, Obama camp paid $832,598 to Acorn.
Acorn Voter fraud.
Obama may have stolen the nomination through Acorn voter fraud.

I WILL NOT vote for a president whose agenda is to destroy America:

Barack Hussien Obama is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.


Barack Hussien Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands.

Obama's game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.


Stimulus and bailouts. Where did all that money go?
It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions -- including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country. It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could keep paying union dues. It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out (after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions).

A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues). All those public employees will vote loyally Democrat to protect their bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America.

It sound to me like Bellair was asking who you would support and why g. You did not answer that. You are going on about what you don't like about Obama.

Romney supports Obama's work regarding anti-terror. At least he says he does. Maybe you should vote for some third party libertarian candidate or something. Have you considered Gary Johnson?

Do you like Mitt Romney's policies? Do you know what they are? Which ones? What do you think is better about them then is the case with Obama?

I WILL NOT votre for a President who works for the SEIU:

And some of you know I come from an organizing background, so — I’ve been working with the SEIU before I was elected to anything.

When I was a community organizer, SEIU Local 880 and myself, we organized voter registration drives, that’s how we built political power on the South Side of Chicago….and now the time has come for us to do it all across this country, and then we’ll paint the nation purple, with SEIU!

I would not be a United States Senator had it not been for the support of your brothers and sisters in Illinois. Those folks, they supported me early, they supported me often. I’ve got my purple windbreaker from my campaign in 2004.

And so, we’ve just got, what, four more days? Four more days of knocking on some doors. Four more days of working the precinct. Four more days of making sure all your co-workers are caucusing.

SEIU, I am glad you are with me, let’s together change the country! SEIU! SEIU! SEIU! SEIU! SEIU!”

SEIU‘s full frontal communism was on display at the May Day Rally in Los Angeles. The event was sponsored by SEIU and a cabal of Communist allies, who have gleefully aligned and are celebrating the demise and fall of the Republic. Marching in militant lockstep, SEIU proudly waved Communist flags and Communists in turn brandished union signs. They were one – comrades indistinguishable from one another. Finally honest in intention and in evil agenda.