"I'm no Cain backer, but, umm, that liberal dream already came true in 2008, remember?"
What does that even mean? Is that some sort of 'gotcha'? Are we only allowed one dream?

Anyway, montclairdad, Herman Cain brain-free campaign was not the point of my post, nor was I looking for tired old Obama insults (in fact, I didn't mention Obama once). My point was the right-wing sock puppet brigade cries "it's the darn liberal media" even when it is obviously not true. Are you arguing with that point, or did you just need to get your "Obama sux!" energy out there?

Of course not, dream as many dreams as you'd like. I know I allowed myself to dream in '08 - and all I got for it was a nightmare. Whether it be Obama, Congress, banks - whatever. And sorry you weren't looking for "tired old Obama insults." Wish I could give you some "tired old Obama" flattery, there just aren't any available. I'm allowed to curmudge too you know. (Yes, I may have just made up a verb. Sorry.)

"This is a lie. Or at least a seriously mis-informed statement. The National Restaurant Association paid the settlements and hold the Non Disclosures."
I think you know what I meant -- nice quibble -- but you are 100% correct.

"Who is in the last word of the quote above?"
You caught me, troll! I did use the word Obama to indicate he will be the Democratic nominee for president. I need a spanking, no?

Where are all these holes you are talking about? What other factual errors? Is that the best you can do?

Nick,

"Where are all these holes you are talking about? What other factual errors? Is that the best you can do?"

The best I can do? You wrote the article, not me. When you say "What other factual errors" you are admitted you are wrong. I should not have be the one to point the errors out. You should re-write or update the article YOU wrote Nick. Its not my fault your story is factually incorrect.

Kyle, I am not telling you to stop posting, but I am telling you I am done responding.

And 'troll' isn't much an insult. No one said I was nice or "lovely".

Sounds like a typical right wing attack scenario. This kind of accusation often makes the national media with no fact checking done on it at all. Keep that possibility in mind. Even if its true, is alleged (not vetted in court) "sexual harassment" (which is sometimes made up or intentionally misconstrued, just as it is sometimes (*often* true.) worse than crafting a healthcare plan that's DESIGNED TO FAIL (Romney with Romneycare, see http://www.pnhp.org for more info ) or executing numerous people who have had exonerating evidence that clearly established their innocence, and knowing that, but doing it anyway? (Perry in his current position in the Texas state house)

Stay on topic, please. That is not what I am talking about even a teeny-tiny bit.

I'm not talking about racism -- you are. Did you even read the post?

Your not talking about Racism???

"The language these people use is pretty over-the-top: Coulter said, “Our blacks are so much better than their blacks.” Classy, no? Hannity insists that this is another “high tech lynching” that liberals are apparently so famous for. Limbaugh shrieked that “‘mainstream media’ goes for the ugliest racial stereotypes they can to attack a black conservative.”

This is absurd on so many levels and speaks more to the paranoid delusion of the right than anything else."

When you say "This is absurd on so many levels and speaks more to the paranoid delusion of the right than anything else."

What is absurd, it seems to me that you are refering to them saying that the Liberal Media inst being Racist? No?

So Kyle, you read my post, and your only response is "Liberals are the racists! Liberals are the racists! Liberals are the racists!"

Great. Good for you. Point made. A news story comes out about a factual issue regarding Cain, and all you can do is scream about racist liberals, just like Rush. You are who I am writing about.

That's enough Kyle, if you want to have a ridiculous argument with nobody about who's more racist then write your own blog.

Why do you know my private posts to another user, Kyle?

"Racism in this country still seems to chafe. Sexist behavior?! Not so much...that's just politics as usual."

It's funny, because I don't see near the outrage (if any) when that sexism extends to how GOP women - Palin, Bachman, O'Donnell - are covered and portrayed. (For the record, not fans of ANY of them. Simply commenting on the hypocrisy.) Oh, that's right, because the left doesn't like them, so it's fair game. Kind of like how bullying is such a terrible, terrible thing, unless it applies to mocking a certain portly NJ governor. Then - as in the case of GOP women - the kindly, progressive, forward-thinking left-leaning media has no problem opening fire. Please, let's not try to pretend that such things are dealt with fairly in media, because we all know they're not.

"I don't see near the outrage (if any) when that sexism extends to how GOP women - Palin, Bachman, O'Donnell - are covered and portrayed."

montclairdad, I don't disagree with you that the left can be rightly accused of hypocrisy in many many many ways. However, I challenge you to provide actual sexist quotes from actual liberal media sources. I am willing to venture that close to 100% of your examples will have to come from stand-up comedians or fringe leftists.

I think there's a lot of misunderstanding about what racism and sexism is, on the right. Making fun of a woman is not sexist, unless what you're making fun of her for is being a woman. Like, you know "Will Americans want to watch a woman get older before their eyes on a daily basis?" (Rush, Dec. 2007).

See how easy it was for me to find of an actually sexist statement from the Lord High Executioner from the right? Let's see your examples, I'm open minded.

Here's some quotes from Media matters from when Palin was picked for VP.
http://mediamatters.org/research/200808290010

Also some from the Womenactionmedia .Org:
http://www.womenactionmedia.org/2011/07/01/sexist-media-coverage-male-voices-a-call-to-arms-for-2012/

The first link, Kevin, is not very strong evidence of sexism. I see your point, but it's still pretty weak. Wondering whether she should be running for VP when she has an infant with DS is not the same thing as saying women should be at home taking care of babies. But like I said, I see your point.

The second link is complete hogwash, however, with only a single Olbermann quote followed by lots of assumptions about how liberals think and feel. And the Olbermann quote? O'Reilly says that liberals hate how "hot" conservative women are, and Olbermann responds with "they're not that hot", and that's evidence of liberal sexism to you? I don't read it that way at all. I read it as Olbermann making fun of what a neanderthal O'Reilly is.

My opinion of Palin(!) and Bachman has nothing to do with their sex. Its mostly the hypocrisy (and the lunacy that a national party would pick either of them) Bachman strikes me as robotic, zombie like, and especially, mean spirited, Palin is so insanely narcissistic one has to wonder, is she even real!

Fair enough, Fran, but let's agree on what are accusations and what are facts. The original accusations remain unknown, and on that count you are mostly correct.

But at least 2 women were paid settlements after accusations of sexual harassment -- this is a fact, and the way the right and Cain has handled this has been pretty clumsy and predictable.

Here's a funny riddle for all the Rushbots out there (not accusing you of this, Fran):
Herman Cain himself said he is pretty sure that race was a factor in this story being leaked, but then he accused Perry's campaign of the leak.
I think Herman Cain just called Perry a racist!

Yup... I agree 100% Fran

I still believe in waiting for actual proof. Cain didn't make any payments, the Restaurant Association did; and Anonymous Woman's lawyer said today that Cain had already left the NRA before the settlement agreement was signed (by her and the RRA, not by Mr. Cain). Companies pay money to make things go away all the time when it's more cost-effective to do so. It doesn't establish guilt (or innocence).

Don, I'm still putting my money on the Rootin'-est Tootin'-est Pistol Packin' Hockey Mom making an 11th hour entry one way or another. They'll go completely bat-chip insane and she'll get the nomination.

Palin is making too much money now to consider another campaign. If the economy doesn't turn around I think the 11th hour entry to watch will be Hillary for the Democratic nomination.

Palin is such an idiot even my Republican friends, who only very rarely diss fellow Republicans, make jokes and roll their eyes about her. That's bad. Whatever support she has it isn't with the kind of Republicans I know. Maybe she does around here.

I supported Hillary because I thought she was the smarter of the two candidates. I felt Obama was far enough to the right of Hillary to be disturbing, which has proven to be true. For example, "his" healthcare "plan" which he borrowed from Massachusetts, can't possibly work. It was booby trapped from the beginning because it puts maintaining the insulation between politicisna nd responibility above affordability and quality. Thats bad. Really, the drug, insurance and hospital corporations won the minute they got Obama the nomination. Really, that huge black hole of medical costs is an even bigger noose around each Americans neck neck than the huge military spending we are wedded to. Its a MINIMUM of $250,000 around each of our pockets, but I think that given the time value of money, the real value of a single payer national healthcare plan would be more like half a million dollars for each and every one of us. They would rather continue this system we have not been able to afford since the 80s or 90s, than have Americans be able to afford to have children, drive or retire. Its a systematic war of plunder on American families to replace the plunder of other nations that the US multinationals can no longer get away with overseas.