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Occupy Wall Street Now Occupies My Mind

On Sunday afternoon, October 23, 2011, I traveled to the southern tip of Manhattan to experience the Occupy Wall Street demonstration first hand.

I had heard people say that it was very dirty, with tons of litter, and that many homeless people had taken up residence there. I had also heard that the park had become quite smelly. So when I arrived, I was especially suprised to find that nothing could be further than the truth.

I guess the negative commentary must be generated by people who oppose the protester's message — not how they are peacefully delivering it. In typical New York style, the protesters have created a rather well organized mini city within the confines of Zuccotti Park — a small park made entirely of of pavement. There are different areas including an array of sleeping areas, 2 different locales for musicians/bands to play inspiring music, a flagpole area with 5-6 hand made flags with various messages on them and small circles of people exchanging ideas to better define their message. There also is a huge buffet table where delicious looking sandwiches, vegetables and organic Vermont apples were being distributed at no charge to pariticpants wearing badges of identification.  

Regardless of their point of view, I give a great deal of credit to these passionate individuals who are so committed to a cause that they are literally eating, sleeping and living it in order to bring about change. I found the few hours I spent there to be truly inspiring and energizing. Of course I left wondering what ideas or expression I feel so passionate about that I would be willing to make a similar commitment?

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David Gleaner

9:52 am on Thursday, October 27, 2011

Its so beautiful how protesters can illegally squat on private property to deliver a message (no one is really sure what that is) by disrupting tax paying local businesses and residents in the area and contributing nothing to the solution to the problem. Despite what the writer observed, there have been reports of crime, as well as hate speech in interviews and posters blaming everyone and anyone for their personal woes. No one is happy with the state of the economy, but the actions in Zuccotti Park are more damaging to local businesses than it is worth. Owners have already stated that if this continues, they may have to lay off workers or close down, which I guess will help the agenda of the protesters by adding more to the unemployed ranks. If they put as much effort into constructive actions to improve their situations and the world around them as they do in organizing meals and building lego protests, they may not find themselves in a much better position. GOOD LUCK, squatters.

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Nick Muson

10:15 am on Thursday, October 27, 2011

I work 2 blocks from the protests. Have you ever been down there? For one thing, there are virtually no "residents". If you had ever been to that part of the Financial District you would know that. For another, these people are no more or less annoying than the other countless millions of lemmings wandering around lower Manhattan on any given day.

"have been reports of crime, as well as hate speech in interview"
Really? Are you sure about that? Do you mean those one or 2 anti semite loonies? What do you mean by "hate speech", specifically? These sorts of off-the-cuff, ignorant accusations need to be called-out.

"to deliver a message (no one is really sure what that is) "
I think actually that plenty of people know what it is, just not you or any of the other dittoheads you read or watch or listen to.

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Nick Muson

10:18 am on Thursday, October 27, 2011

Maybe it's just you David. Here's the latest poll from those godless liberal commies at The Wall Street Journal:
"The new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll shows that Americans support the Occupy Wall Street protests by a two-to-one margin (37 percent in favor, 18 percent opposed) while more Americans view the Tea Party negatively (28 percent in favor, 41 percent opposed). This means the Occupy Wall Street protests have a net favorability of +19 percent while the Tea Party has a net favorability of -13 percent"

ira shor

10:28 am on Thursday, October 27, 2011

Good morning all--Go to occ wall st and you will see that crime and hate speech are hard to find and powerfully rejected in every mtg by the vast majority there. Mr.Gleaner says occ wall st is sqatting on pvt land--not so. This is public property handed over to Brookfield Corp on whose board sits Mayor B's girlfriend Diana Taylor. Mayor handed much public prop to pvt corps.--took away only 2 parks in poor So Bronx so Yankees could build their $1.7bil new stadium(costing NYC upwards of $600mil in subsidies). Yankees given only parkland in poorest area of nation's poorest urban county. Mayor now trying to seize small bus pvt prop in Willets Pt, Queens for a mega-complex; Mayor displaced pvt homeowners in Bklyn to build new Nets arena; Mayor gave Goldman bank $150 million subsidy for its new HQ. Wall St crashed our economy and the rest of us are paying for it. Goldman/corps. flooded with cash($2 trillion domestically, $1 trillion overseas. Govt dominated by Wall St money means only game changer left is peaceful protest. Visit occ wall st and see their own cleanup crews, security crews, big free library, free food service with food donated by families and restaurants(I got good lunch there on my one visit), free health care, free clothing and comfort needs, etc. Sleeping outdoors on concrete in the cold rain is a sacrifice not a picnic. Those who can do it, are doing it for us the 99%. Someone at last is seriously taking our side....respectfully, Ira Shor

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Bob Perez

11:31 am on Thursday, October 27, 2011

Poorest amongst us live far better than 90% of the world's people! How did that happen? What change could give us a better result?

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Nick Muson

12:12 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011

I don't understand this. Is the fact that most of the world lives in wretched poverty supposed to make us happy?

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Butterfly

11:08 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011

don't get that argument. You want to have the 99% of all americans live like the 99% of the rest of the world?
Lets keep the OWS in national perspective.

ira shor

12:13 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011

Hello--Mr. Perez asks what change could bring us better results. We had better results 1947-1979 when bottom 80% of families saw rising real income equal to gains of top 20% and productivity of Amer workers continually rose too. Fate of bottom 80% of families went south after 1980 when deregulation, corp. consolidation, and bailouts of failed giant corp's/savings and loans became national policy. Real income of bottom 80% families stagnant for 30 years while corp profits zoom and wealth/income of top 1% go off the charts. 50 mil Americans now have no health insurance; 250K kids are homeless; 15 mil kids in poverty; median family income dropped 6% since Wall st crashed economy in 08. To judge our high-tech fabulously wealthy nation against the poor nations is pointless. Our poor, working class, and middle class did better when tax rates on millionaires and on corps. were higher, and when the Glass-Steagall Act of 1934 was in place, prohibiting investment banks from being commercial banks(gambling with our accounts, ended by Dem Pres Clinton in 99). Single-payer health care delivers more healthcare at lower costs in most advanced nations, not here. Most advanced nations offer paid parental leave to help families with new babies and with sick members, not here. Many changes can help average families but allowing top 1% to pay little tax and allowing corps. with $3 trillion in the bank to evade taxes is driving the 99% to ruin, which is why Wall St is occupied....ira shor

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Fran

12:16 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011

June 1932 ...an army of WW1 vets camped out ....20,000of them.. In the mud flats in DC in view of the capitol. They came because there were no jobs...they did not receive their veterans bonus...while Hoover had bailed out the banks. Now flash forward to today. People are protesting the greed of wall street, the bank foreclosures, and no jobs. And a young Iraq war vet, who had served 2 tours there, is in an induced coma after being hit at close range by a police projectile. We are not the old soviet union ,are we? We believe in freedom, right? Our Constitution gives us the right to assembly...WE are allowed to protest...WE have free speech...We do not expect to survive 2 tours in Iraq only to have our skulls fractured in Oakland....right? Right?

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David Gleaner

2:03 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011

I'm not against free speech, but when it infringes on the rights of others making a living, let alone move freely in the area, it is not fair to those innocently affected. "The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins,", Justice O.W. Holmes. Your right of free speech cannot violate the freedom of others. And for proof of that, see
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-10-25/occupy-wall-street-knows-not-what-it-does-hurting-local-jobs.html

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Nick Muson

2:31 pm on Thursday, October 27, 2011

"but when it infringes on the rights of others making a living, let alone move freely in the area, it is not fair to those innocently affected"

No one is infringing on anyone's rights. The right seems to feel it's their duty to paint the protesters as outlaws, so they have to use this sort of hysterical language.

If the protesters were actively physically keeping people from entering their offices or entering stores I might agree with you. But they're not. It's just a big crowd that makes it a little harder to move around. Everyone's rights are completely intact.

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Alberto Fernandez

4:28 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011

If you identify so strongly to the cause, why not march on Maplewood Ricalton Square, take it over and demonstrate in front of the BofA branch office, or Kings (outrageous food industry price gauging) or the movie theater (crazy prices for standard ticket and what about the add ons?) or NJ Transit (that crazy fare increase), or any other many other targets?
What a crock.

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Amy Harris

9:06 pm on Monday, October 31, 2011

I am not sure how you got the impression that I identify strongly with the protestors. I merely reported what I witnessed and questioned my own commitment to the issues.

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Nick Muson

10:43 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

I am very confused by your post. Are you saying that the protesters aren't protesting the things you think they should? What exactly is "a crock"?

Alberto Fernandez

9:24 am on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

I wasn't referring to your post in particular, but to others that responded.
I am sorry if you took it as directed to your message.

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Alberto Fernandez

3:41 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

who's office should we march on? Your Daddy's or mine?

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Nick Muson

4:09 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Ah, I didn't realize you were just a troll. I don't feed the trolls.

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Alberto Fernandez

6:30 pm on Tuesday, November 1, 2011

OK- then its your daddy's office this week.

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